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Times are tough right now, and nearly everyone is feeling the pressure - it’s universal. Whether you’re in a wellbeing role, a wellbeing champion, a people leader, or someone who believes wellbeing should and can be a core part of work, I hear you: the challenges are real and the cost is too high. I’m Sarah McGuinness, founder and editor of Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) and a workplace wellbeing specialist with a background in psychology. I know firsthand what burnout feels like because I’ve been there. In 2020, I hit rock bottom, and recovery was a long road. Sharing my story opened my eyes to just how many others were fighting the same battle, and it became clear: something needed to change. That’s why I created ROW - to break burnout culture for good. This podcast exists for you. If you’ve ever felt the burn of burnout or seen its impact on your team, this is your space to find support, solutions, and inspiration. With 57% of New Zealanders at high risk of burnout - and similar trends around the world - it’s clear we need fast, practical, evidence-based approaches. Each episode is designed to help you make a difference, with real stories, expert insights, and practical suggestions you can take away to improve the culture in your workplace and support your colleagues. But it’s not just about burnout. We dive into the issues that matter most, like inclusivity, bullying, menopause, financial health, psychological safety, and more - all with the goal of helping you grow personally and professionally. By tuning in, you’ll not only discover ways to boost your own wellbeing but also learn how to create lasting impact at work. And you’re not alone in this journey. ROW is a growing community of HR and health and safety professionals, people leaders, and wellbeing advocates just like you, working to transform workplace practices into real business success. So join us as we tackle burnout culture and drive a revolution forward - one episode at a time. Together, we can do this.
Episodes

Tuesday Oct 25, 2022
Tuesday Oct 25, 2022
We’re delighted to be joined by Adele Saunders, Manager of Psychological Health and Wellbeing at St John. In this episode, we talk through the massive influence that managers and peers have in providing first-level mental health and psychosocial support, and insights from a workplace where things like psychological trauma and PTSD are real risks that need to be actively managed.
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Tuesday Aug 16, 2022
Episode 27: Inclusive wellbeing from a Māori worldview
Tuesday Aug 16, 2022
Tuesday Aug 16, 2022
Over the next little while, we’ll be exploring diversity and inclusion as part of our podcast series. This episode explores inclusive wellbeing from a Māori worldview.
When it comes to workplace wellbeing, inclusivity is important. An inclusive, diverse workplace culture fosters a sense of belonging, safety, and purpose for employees, which in turn helps to increase wellbeing and productivity. It improves social connectedness and belonging; and reduces discrimination, prejudice, and harassment. It supports people to bring their whole selves to work.
Joining us is Stacey Morrison (Te Arawa, Ngai Tahu), one of NZ’s most recognisable broadcasters across radio and TV. She and her husband Scotty Morrison co-wrote ‘Māori at Home’ to help other families use te reo in everyday settings, and Stacey’s first children’s book, ‘My First Words in Māori’, became a number-one bestseller.
We’ll be exploring some of the cornerstones of wellbeing from this perspective, along with barriers and myths in the workplace and the actions workplaces can take to ensure wellbeing programs are truly inclusive.
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Friday Jul 29, 2022
Friday Jul 29, 2022
Over the next little while, we’ll be exploring diversity and inclusion as part of our podcast series. This episode explores inclusive wellbeing from a sexual and gender identity perspective.
When it comes to workplace wellbeing, inclusivity is important. An inclusive, diverse workplace culture fosters a sense of belonging, safety, and purpose for employees, which in turn helps to increase wellbeing and productivity. It improves social connectedness and belonging; and reduces discrimination, prejudice and harassment. It supports people to bring their whole self to work.
Joining us is José Taiapa from Rainbow Tick. Rainbow Tick is about accepting and valuing people in the workplace, and embracing the diversity of sexual and gender identities. A supportive work environment that is accepting of peoples’ differences benefits everybody in your organisation.
We’ll be exploring some of the cornerstones of wellbeing from this perspective, along with barriers and myths in the workplace and the actions workplaces can take to ensure wellbeing programs are truly inclusive.
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Tuesday Mar 29, 2022
Episode 25: Managing psychosocial risk at work
Tuesday Mar 29, 2022
Tuesday Mar 29, 2022
Addressing psychosocial risk factors is an important part of creating a robust wellbeing strategy. It can be the difference between a wellbeing program that takes a bandaid approach and a wellbeing strategy that gets to the heart of workplace wellbeing issues.
So has the pandemic changed psychosocial risk factors, and what can organisations to do identify and mitigate these risks?
Joining us to explore this important topic is Professor Bevan Catley from Massey University. Drawing on the extensive New Zealand Barometer research and other new research works, Bevan takes us on a journey to better understand the topic and the top issues.
He also provides tips for wellbeing managers to better support employees now and in the future.
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Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
Episode 24: How to build mental health literacy with Jimi Hunt
Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
In this episode, we're joined by mental health advocate Jimi Hunt to explore the concept of 'mental health literacy' and why language matters.
While mental health awareness has improved over the years - there is still a gap between knowing about mental health and taking actions towards better mental health.
We discuss how to obtain and maintain positive mental wellness, how to understand mental health problems and seek support, and how to decrease stigma in the workplace.
Our guest: Jimi Hunt
Jimi is the co-founder of the charity Live More Awesome and is most well known for his work in reducing the stigma around mental health in a distinctly colourful way. He is a Guinness World Record holder, two times TEDx speaker, a regular panellist on morning radio/TV shows and has been the subject of a documentary and two feature episodes of a major US Network show highlighting his unique and highly successful exploits into raising awareness of mental health.
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Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
Episode 23: Case study - wellbeing at Mitre 10
Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
In this interview, we take a look at a workplace wellbeing case study. Our guest is Nicky Primrose, Health, Safety & Wellbeing Business Partner at Mitre 10.
Mitre 10 has been a part of New Zealand's home improvement culture since 1974. It is New Zealand-owned and operated, and is New Zealand's largest home improvement and garden retailer.
As a co-operative spread from Kaitaia to Invercargill, Mitre 10 is committed to the wellbeing of its team of over 5,000 people.
Of course, recent events with COVID-19 have meant the operations support team has needed to come up with new and innovative ways to support their people, manage risk and sustain the business.
Nicky shares the Mitre 10 wellbeing journey, including insights, lessons learned, and what's ahead for the community-minded business.
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Tuesday Nov 09, 2021
Episode 22: Rethinking work hours with a 4-day week
Tuesday Nov 09, 2021
Tuesday Nov 09, 2021
In this interview, we explore the idea of a 4-day working week.
COVID-19 has certainly forced a rethink on modern work practices, and the 4-day working week has hit the headlines as a potential game-changer for productivity and workplace wellbeing.
Many in New Zealand will know of the success of the four-day working week at Perpetual Guardian. It made headlines around the world in 2019 when results showed the introduction of a compressed schedule delivered an increase in worker productivity, engagement, wellbeing, and job satisfaction.
Having seen the success, other big-name brands have jumped on board. Even New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has given it a stamp of approval as a flexible work option. So, how does it work? What are the pros and cons, and in which organisations is it likely to be most successful?
Joining us in this interview is Andrew Barnes, founder of Perpetual Guardian and founder of 4 Day Week Global and the 4 Day Week Global Foundation. Andrew is also on the advisory boards of both the US and Ireland 4 Day Week campaigns and the board of the newly created Wellbeing Research Centre at Oxford University.
Andrew shares his experience with launching a 4-day week across multiple businesses, plus shares insights on the future of work.
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Wednesday Oct 27, 2021
Episode 21: How to increase motivation and inspire employee health behaviour change
Wednesday Oct 27, 2021
Wednesday Oct 27, 2021
In this interview, we take a deep dive into the science of behaviour change. Feel good messaging won't motivate all employees to make healthy lifestyle choices, so what will?
To explore the topic, we're joined by ROW behaviour change expert Dr Mark Wallace-Bell.
We discuss motivation and commitment, and what organisations can do to support employees to make sustainable, healthy behaviour changes. We also discuss barriers to change and simple tips for inspiring employees to try something new.
Dr Mark Wallace-Bell (RN, BSc (Hons)(Psych)PhD) is an internationally recognised health behaviour change specialist.
When not with ROW, Mark is at the University of Canterbury where he teaches post-graduate papers on health behaviour change.
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The time to act is now
Learn how to improve workplace wellbeing from the experts
Guests join ROW Founder and CEO Sarah McGuinness to explore topics we can’t afford to ignore. On this podcast, learn about important topics, gain insights and build your workplace wellbeing capability. Be inspired and learn about issues we can all take action on.
About ROW
The Revolutionaires of Wellbeing (ROW) helps wellbeing managers and champions to be change-makers and to create better workplaces, together. With a community of leaders from organisations around the globe, ROW is dedicated to helping you to develop your professional expertise, access practical tools and resources, and network with peers and experts to meaningfully improve workplace wellbeing. We bring together experts and businesses to solve collective challenges and to share knowledge and experience.
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