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Times are tough right now, and nearly everyone is feeling the pressure - it’s universal. Whether you’re in a wellbeing role, a wellbeing champion, a people leader, or someone who believes wellbeing should and can be a core part of work, I hear you: the challenges are real and the cost is too high. I’m Sarah McGuinness, founder and editor of Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) and a workplace wellbeing specialist with a background in psychology. I know firsthand what burnout feels like because I’ve been there. In 2020, I hit rock bottom, and recovery was a long road. Sharing my story opened my eyes to just how many others were fighting the same battle, and it became clear: something needed to change. That’s why I created ROW - to break burnout culture for good. This podcast exists for you. If you’ve ever felt the burn of burnout or seen its impact on your team, this is your space to find support, solutions, and inspiration. With 57% of New Zealanders at high risk of burnout - and similar trends around the world - it’s clear we need fast, practical, evidence-based approaches. Each episode is designed to help you make a difference, with real stories, expert insights, and practical suggestions you can take away to improve the culture in your workplace and support your colleagues. But it’s not just about burnout. We dive into the issues that matter most, like inclusivity, bullying, menopause, financial health, psychological safety, and more - all with the goal of helping you grow personally and professionally. By tuning in, you’ll not only discover ways to boost your own wellbeing but also learn how to create lasting impact at work. And you’re not alone in this journey. ROW is a growing community of HR and health and safety professionals, people leaders, and wellbeing advocates just like you, working to transform workplace practices into real business success. So join us as we tackle burnout culture and drive a revolution forward - one episode at a time. Together, we can do this.
Episodes

Tuesday Sep 03, 2024
Tuesday Sep 03, 2024
**We've had a name change! This podcast is now called Breaking Burnout Culture. It was Workplace Wellbeing, but we've made the change to better reflect our mission. It's still all the content you know and love.**
In this episode, ROW Alumni Chris Hewitt chats with Dean Yates, author of Line in the Sand. Dean Yates was the ideal warzone correspondent: courageous, compassionate, and dedicated. After years of facing the worst, including covering the Bali bombings and the Boxing Day tsunami, one final incident undid him. In this gritty and compelling interview, Dean shares his lived experience of trauma, PTSD, moral injury and his three admissions to the Ward 17 psych unit in Melbourne, Australia. There are lessons we can all learn from Dean’s story, and obvious actions for workplaces to ensure they protect their people.
If anything in this episode feels a bit close to the bone, we encourage you to reach out to someone you trust or your national helpline.
Share your thoughts: We'd love to hear from you! Leave a review and let us know what you enjoyed most about this episode.
Get more: For episode chapters, transcript, highlights, and key takeaways, head to rowwellbeing.com/podcast
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Monday Mar 25, 2024
Episode 42: The power of storytelling for mental health awareness
Monday Mar 25, 2024
Monday Mar 25, 2024
Humans have been sharing stories since the dawn of time to help us make sense of the world around us and to influence our thinking. Storytelling is one of the most powerful tools in a wellbeing leader’s toolkit. With it, you can normalise conversations about mental health and wellbeing, you can destigmatise, you can challenge and change beliefs and you can foster psychological safety.
In this episode, we’re delighted to be joined by Michelle Ortega, wellbeing advocate and Communications and Relationship Manager at Fonterra Brands. Join us as we explore how you can use storytelling to create an empathetic, psychologically safe work environment and shape a culture that supports mental health.
Michelle is a passionate advocate for mental health, using her own lived experience to reduce stigma and drive positive mental health conversations in the workplace. Because of her dedication to raising awareness of mental health at Fonterra through openly sharing her own story, Michelle took home the PWC New Zealand Lived Experience Leadership Award at the 2021 HeadFit Awards. Michelle has also presented and has been a keynote speaker at a number of national and international conferences. Most recently at the HR ANZ Summit in the Gold Coast, where she received a standing ovation for her presentation on The Power of Storytelling in Turning the Tide on Mental Health Awareness in Workplaces.
If anything in this episode feels a bit close to the bone, we encourage you to reach out to someone you trust or your national helpline.
Share your thoughts: We'd love to hear from you! Leave a review and let us know what you enjoyed most about this episode.
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Sunday Mar 17, 2024
Episode 41: Wellbeing from a senior leader’s perspective
Sunday Mar 17, 2024
Sunday Mar 17, 2024
Wellbeing starts at the top of an organisation, which means we need senior leaders to be committed and engaged. So how can you influence leaders in your workplace? In this episode, we talk to a leader who is more than walking the talk. Hugh Goddard, Managing Director at Pipeline & Civil, is a role model for embracing and leading a people-first culture. We’ll talk about the role of senior leaders in being a champion for wellbeing and we’ll explore how wellbeing advocates can influence up. We’ll also look at some of the challenges of wellbeing in the construction sector and how Hugh has tackled these head-on.
Share your thoughts: We'd love to hear from you! Leave a review and let us know what you enjoyed most about this episode.
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Saturday Mar 09, 2024
Episode 40: Understanding financial wellbeing and its impact
Saturday Mar 09, 2024
Saturday Mar 09, 2024
While financial wellbeing has always been important, the current economic climate and cost of living crisis are causing stress and pressure for people across the board.
We explore some of the key financial wellbeing issues people face, shedding light on the various challenges people encounter when it comes to managing their finances effectively. We also examine how societal conditioning influences our relationship with money, impacting our overall wellbeing in ways we might not even realise. Finally, we'll also discuss actionable strategies and insights on what workplaces can do to foster and support better financial health for their people, ensuring employees feel empowered and equipped to navigate through these turbulent times with confidence. So, make sure you have a pen and paper handy, and get ready for an insight-packed conversation with practical tips for enhancing employee (and maybe your own?) financial wellbeing!
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Saturday Mar 02, 2024
Episode 39: Developing an effective wellbeing strategy in a complex environment
Saturday Mar 02, 2024
Saturday Mar 02, 2024
Auckland Transport (AT) is a large, complex, public organisation with a wide range of physical and psychosocial risks to manage. This interview was recorded in mid-2023 when we were joined by AT’s then-People Experience Lead Jessica Hayes to take a look at their wellbeing strategy and some of the award-winning initiatives that they had rolled out over the last two years. We’ll also look at the process of developing an effective wellbeing strategy and how to truly bring it to life.
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Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Episode 38: Taking a proactive and preventative approach to bullying behaviour
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Saturday Feb 24, 2024
Bullying behaviours and attitudes can very extremely damaging.
But if you do have a bully at work? And what can you do to proactively change their behaviours and the culture they create? What assistance and support can you give to the target of those behaviours?
In this episode, we’re joined by workplace bullying specialist Michael Plowright, founder of Working Well Together. We discuss all things bullying, prevention and remediation. And what you can do to address this important issue in your workplace.
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Tuesday Aug 22, 2023
Episode 37: Embedding wellbeing in your organisation
Tuesday Aug 22, 2023
Tuesday Aug 22, 2023
In this episode, we’re joined by Natalee Scripps-Hawkins, author, coach and Head of Health, Safety and Wellbeing at Auckland Airport to explore a key issue, and that’s this: as wellbeing leaders and champions, we’re passionate about driving the organisation’s wellbeing agenda. But what does that look like in reality?
We know we need to be influential and drive of change. But how?
Together, we discuss what it means to create a people-first organisation. We also look at the broad role of the wellbeing manager as an influencer, communicator, and an agent of change.
Because to be successful as wellbeing professionals – we need to drive the change we want to see.
Learn more about wellbeing and transform your workplace. Join ROW - get started for free today!

Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
Episode 36: Coming back from a traumatic brain injury
Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
In this episode, we chat with Nick Jenkins. Nick is a health & safety professional who suffered a traumatic brain injury after a mountain biking accident in 2020.
He shares the story of his injury, and his considerable rehab and recovery journey. We also talk about returning to work after a significant injury and adjusting to a new normal. Plus, we explore what workplaces can do to support those on a similar recovery journey.
Join us and be inspired by Nick's story and gain an insight into life with a brain injury and overcoming the odds.
Learn more about wellbeing and transform your workplace. Join ROW - get started for free today!

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Learn how to improve workplace wellbeing from the experts
Guests join ROW Founder and CEO Sarah McGuinness to explore topics we can’t afford to ignore. On this podcast, learn about important topics, gain insights and build your workplace wellbeing capability. Be inspired and learn about issues we can all take action on.
About ROW
The Revolutionaires of Wellbeing (ROW) helps wellbeing managers and champions to be change-makers and to create better workplaces, together. With a community of leaders from organisations around the globe, ROW is dedicated to helping you to develop your professional expertise, access practical tools and resources, and network with peers and experts to meaningfully improve workplace wellbeing. We bring together experts and businesses to solve collective challenges and to share knowledge and experience.
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