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Times are tough right now, and nearly everyone is feeling the pressure - it’s universal. Whether you’re in a wellbeing role, a wellbeing champion, a people leader, or someone who believes wellbeing should and can be a core part of work, I hear you: the challenges are real and the cost is too high. I’m Sarah McGuinness, founder and editor of Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) and a workplace wellbeing specialist with a background in psychology. I know firsthand what burnout feels like because I’ve been there. In 2020, I hit rock bottom, and recovery was a long road. Sharing my story opened my eyes to just how many others were fighting the same battle, and it became clear: something needed to change. That’s why I created ROW - to break burnout culture for good. This podcast exists for you. If you’ve ever felt the burn of burnout or seen its impact on your team, this is your space to find support, solutions, and inspiration. With 57% of New Zealanders at high risk of burnout - and similar trends around the world - it’s clear we need fast, practical, evidence-based approaches. Each episode is designed to help you make a difference, with real stories, expert insights, and practical suggestions you can take away to improve the culture in your workplace and support your colleagues. But it’s not just about burnout. We dive into the issues that matter most, like inclusivity, bullying, menopause, financial health, psychological safety, and more - all with the goal of helping you grow personally and professionally. By tuning in, you’ll not only discover ways to boost your own wellbeing but also learn how to create lasting impact at work. And you’re not alone in this journey. ROW is a growing community of HR and health and safety professionals, people leaders, and wellbeing advocates just like you, working to transform workplace practices into real business success. So join us as we tackle burnout culture and drive a revolution forward - one episode at a time. Together, we can do this.
Episodes

Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
Episode 36: Coming back from a traumatic brain injury
Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
In this episode, we chat with Nick Jenkins. Nick is a health & safety professional who suffered a traumatic brain injury after a mountain biking accident in 2020.
He shares the story of his injury, and his considerable rehab and recovery journey. We also talk about returning to work after a significant injury and adjusting to a new normal. Plus, we explore what workplaces can do to support those on a similar recovery journey.
Join us and be inspired by Nick's story and gain an insight into life with a brain injury and overcoming the odds.
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Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
Episode 35: Understanding neurodiversity and ADHD
Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
Tuesday Jul 11, 2023
In this episode, we chat to an expert on ADHD, and explore how workplaces can better support neurodiversity.
It’s estimated that over 280,000 Kiwis have ADHD. People from all walks of life, in all professions, live and work with ADHD.
But we don’t really talk about how businesses can lead for and accommodate different neurotypes.
We're joined by ADHD advocate, coach and facilitator Callum McKirdy. Together, we discuss how we can create work environments that understand the value that people with ADHD and other forms of neurodiversity can bring, and how to support them to thrive.
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Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
Episode 34: The honest guide to menopause and perimenopause
Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
Tuesday Jun 20, 2023
With half of people experiencing menopause in their life, this is an important topic with significant impacts on work. But where do we start the menopause conversation?
Learning about this life stage is the first step. In this episode, we’re delighted to be joined by Niki Bezzant, writer and author of the bestselling menopause book, This Changes Everything: the honest guide to menopause and perimenopause.
In the episode, we’ll help you understand how you can best support employees, friends, or family members going through menopause, and how you can navigate menopause at work if you're experiencing it.
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Wednesday May 31, 2023
Episode 33: Psychosocial hazards and the neurobiology of stress
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Wednesday May 31, 2023
In this episode, we chat with Dr Georgi Toma, Founder and CEO of Heart & Brain Works. We talk about how many of the drivers of the current ‘Great Resignation’ have their origins traced back to poor management of psychosocial hazards.
This could stem from a lack of psychological safety, poor culture, or leaders that lack the capabilities and skills to lead for wellbeing.
We also look at the neurobiological responses to workplace stress and how they can be understood and managed.
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Wednesday May 03, 2023
Episode 32: Case Study - Leading wellbeing through turbulence at Air New Zealand
Wednesday May 03, 2023
Wednesday May 03, 2023
In this episode, we’re joined by Liam Scopes, Air New Zealand’s Strategic Wellbeing Manager.
Few industries were as impacted by the Covid-19 pandemic as air travel. International borders closed and the ability to move people and freight was significantly affected by the crisis.
Air New Zealand has been through a period of significant changes to its operations, headcount, and structure over the past few years. First, there was a rapid downsizing as the business shrank in response to the pandemic. And then, an equally rapid growth phase as normal operations resumed.
Liam shares his experience on the practicalities of managing the many wellbeing needs of a diverse, global organisation of around 10,000 employees through one of the most challenging periods imaginable.
So fasten your seatbelts and stow your bags as we talk about leading wellbeing through turbulent times.
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Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Episode 31: Long Covid, disabilities and chronic illnesses
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
In this episode, we take a deep-dive on long Covid, hidden disabilities and chronic illnesses, and how workplaces can rethink work and be more supportive.
Invisible or hidden disabilities are disabilities that are not immediately apparent. They are typically chronic illnesses that impact day-to-day living. As many as one in 10 of us could have one.
They range from learning differences, deafness, autism, traumatic brain injury, bipolar disorder, diabetes, ADHD, fibromyalgia, arthritis, sleep disorders, and many more.
With Long Covid increasing, wellbeing managers are going to need to understand and plan for this emerging issue.
We're joined by UK-based disability advocate and author Ted Smith. Ted is the author of Hidden Disabilities and Conditions; Creating an Inclusive Workplace. Together, we discuss chronic illness management and how that impacts wellbeing in the workplace.
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Tuesday Dec 06, 2022
Episode 30: Yes, you can talk about mental health at work
Tuesday Dec 06, 2022
Tuesday Dec 06, 2022
In this episode, we’re delighted to be joined by Melissa Doman, US-based Organisational Psychologist, Former Clinical Mental Health Therapist, & Author of Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work (Here’s Why And How To Do It Really Well). Melissa has presented and consulted for organizations and Fortune 500 companies across industries and around the world, including clients such as Google, Dow Jones, Microsoft, and more. We look at why you should have mental health conversations, and critically, how to do so, as well as dive into some of the key objections you might face in encouraging line managers from having mental health conversations – everything from "I’m not a therapist" to "I don’t want to say the wrong thing".
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Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
In this episode, we are delighted to be joined by Chris Jones, Chief Safety and Wellbeing Officer at Ara Poutama, New Zealand’s Department of Corrections.
Prior to his role in Corrections, Chris held roles at WorkSafe New Zealand (where he led the Strategy, Guidance and Standards, and Occupational Health teams), Network Rail (as Head of Occupational Health and Wellbeing Strategy) and Nuffield Health (as Head of Physiology).
Through our discussion, we try to define what wellbeing actually is (and what it isn’t), how we can create the right systems and conditions that allow wellbeing to emerge, and how we can best attempt to quantify those factors in an effort to measure success.
We also discuss the emergence of wellbeing as a profession, and opportunities to grow and shape it in the coming years.
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Learn how to improve workplace wellbeing from the experts
Guests join ROW Founder and CEO Sarah McGuinness to explore topics we can’t afford to ignore. On this podcast, learn about important topics, gain insights and build your workplace wellbeing capability. Be inspired and learn about issues we can all take action on.
About ROW
The Revolutionaires of Wellbeing (ROW) helps wellbeing managers and champions to be change-makers and to create better workplaces, together. With a community of leaders from organisations around the globe, ROW is dedicated to helping you to develop your professional expertise, access practical tools and resources, and network with peers and experts to meaningfully improve workplace wellbeing. We bring together experts and businesses to solve collective challenges and to share knowledge and experience.
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