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Times are tough right now, and nearly everyone is feeling the pressure - it’s universal. Whether you’re in a wellbeing role, a wellbeing champion, a people leader, or someone who believes wellbeing should and can be a core part of work, I hear you: the challenges are real and the cost is too high. I’m Sarah McGuinness, founder and editor of Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) and a workplace wellbeing specialist with a background in psychology. I know firsthand what burnout feels like because I’ve been there. In 2020, I hit rock bottom, and recovery was a long road. Sharing my story opened my eyes to just how many others were fighting the same battle, and it became clear: something needed to change. That’s why I created ROW - to break burnout culture for good. This podcast exists for you. If you’ve ever felt the burn of burnout or seen its impact on your team, this is your space to find support, solutions, and inspiration. With 57% of New Zealanders at high risk of burnout - and similar trends around the world - it’s clear we need fast, practical, evidence-based approaches. Each episode is designed to help you make a difference, with real stories, expert insights, and practical suggestions you can take away to improve the culture in your workplace and support your colleagues. But it’s not just about burnout. We dive into the issues that matter most, like inclusivity, bullying, menopause, financial health, psychological safety, and more - all with the goal of helping you grow personally and professionally. By tuning in, you’ll not only discover ways to boost your own wellbeing but also learn how to create lasting impact at work. And you’re not alone in this journey. ROW is a growing community of HR and health and safety professionals, people leaders, and wellbeing advocates just like you, working to transform workplace practices into real business success. So join us as we tackle burnout culture and drive a revolution forward - one episode at a time. Together, we can do this.
Episodes

Wednesday Aug 19, 2020
Episode 12: ’Green Light to Talk’ - Mental health at PwC
Wednesday Aug 19, 2020
Wednesday Aug 19, 2020
In this session, we discuss PwC Australia's 'Green Light to Talk' initiative with Kate Connors from PwC Australia's Wellness Centre of Excellence.
PwC Australia launched 'Green Light to Talk' in 2018, as part of the firm's commitment to dial up the dialogue on mental wellbeing. A key component of the initiative is leaders sharing their stories on how mental ill health has impacted them personally during their career.
In this podcast, we discuss how the 'Green Light to Talk' program was developed and it's aims and success. We'll also explore some of the challenges and Kate's tips to other organisations looking to improve the mental health of their team.
Kate has been the leader of PwC Australia's Wellness Centre of Excellence for over three years and has worked at PwC for five and a half years. Prior to joining PwC she worked in corporate health & wellbeing for over 20 years and her passion is creating mentally healthy workplaces. Kate is a registered psychologist with a Masters degree in Counselling Psychology from Curtin University in WA. Kate's experience in supporting mental health at PwC includes supporting the NZ firm following the Christchurch mosque attacks in March 2019.
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Wednesday Aug 05, 2020
Episode 11: How to support men’s mental health
Wednesday Aug 05, 2020
Wednesday Aug 05, 2020
In this session, we're joined by guest Gerard Vaughan from the Mental Health Foundation to discuss men's mental health.
Businesses can play an important role in helping men to manage their mental health - including reducing stigma, opening the conversation, and sharing positive role models. In this discussion, we will discuss the role organisations can play in more depth, some of the challenges and myths, and Gerard shares his tips for engaging with men to improve mental wellbeing.
Gerard has worked as a consultant for the Mental Health Foundation for the last four years leading the Farmstrong project. He also helps organisations to establish, design and deliver behaviour change programmes. Prior to consulting, Gerard was the National Project Manager of the Like Minds, Like Mine campaign in New Zealand and was CEO of the Alcohol Advisory Council for five years. He has an MA in Community Psychology from Waikato University.
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Saturday Jul 25, 2020
Episode 10: Ask an Expert - Jacqui Maguire
Saturday Jul 25, 2020
Saturday Jul 25, 2020
Our first Ask an Expert guest is Jacqui Maguire. Jacqui is a registered clinical psychologist and media commentator with a particular interest in lifting organisational performance by developing the resilience and wellbeing of employees. Jacqui's passion is to work closely with clients to understand the unique needs of their organisation and develop tailored programmes to best fit.
Note Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) was formally known as My Health Revolution.
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Friday Jul 24, 2020
Episode 9: Case study - wellbeing at Environment Canterbury
Friday Jul 24, 2020
Friday Jul 24, 2020
Environment Canterbury (ECan) began their wellbeing journey back in 2017 and its current vision is to have a culture where the wellbeing of its people is at the heart of what they do and is interwoven in all they do. They have integrated hauora or the Māori perspective of wellbeing into their strategy and actions, and take a holistic perspective to consider the four pillars of wellbeing (physical, mental and emotional, social, and spiritual) across three dimensions (individual, organisational, and environmental). Mary Abbott is the Human Resources Advisor (OD)at ECan.
Note Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) was formally known as My Health Revolution.
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Friday Jul 24, 2020
Episode 8: Case study - wellbeing at Ara
Friday Jul 24, 2020
Friday Jul 24, 2020
The Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) podcast explores how we can build better, stronger workplaces. Note Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) was formally known as My Health Revolution.
This episode: Case study - wellbeing at Ara
In this session, Andy Hearn, Ara's Wellbeing Specialist, joins us to share the vocational training institute's wellbeing framework and how it has been used to shape the response to the Covid-19 crisis. Andy will share the components of the framework and discuss the framework's flexibility to support different levels of focus and intervention for workers during this uncertain time (at organisation, team and self levels).
Ara is the largest vocational training institute in the South Island of New Zealand.
Andy is an experienced Wellbeing Specialist who is nearing the end of two year contract as ‘Manager – Health & Wellbeing’ at Ara Institute of Technology. He worked for 10 years as a Senior Academic Staff Member and Head of Science at CPIT (now Ara) before moving to the Canterbury DHB in 2012 to lead the DHB’s staff wellbeing response following the Christchurch earthquakes. After four years at the CDHB Andy moved to Emerge Aotearoa as their National Health, Safety and Wellbeing Manager. In 2018 he returned to Ara to develop and embed an evidence-based focus on staff wellbeing.
Andy holds a Master’s Degree in Physiotherapy, a Graduate Diploma in Occupational Health & Safety, and is a ICF Certified Coach.
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Friday Jul 24, 2020
Episode 7: How to build resilience in a COVID-19 world
Friday Jul 24, 2020
Friday Jul 24, 2020
In this podcast, Kathryn Jackson, author of Resilience at Work (finalist at the 2019 Business Book Awards, London), joins us to share her insights and tips for building resilience. Building resilience will be a critical part of recovery from COVID-19. It will be essential for leaders as they navigate the business challenges ahead and for employees as they forge their path through the turbulence of the changing world.
Kathryn’s book is based on her own experience of working in extreme circumstances in post-earthquake Christchurch and is enhanced by collaboration with leading resilience experts from around the world. In this discussion, Kathryn shares the keys to building resilience in a COVID-19 world, based on the findings in her book, and we discuss what lessons we can take away from the recovery process following the Christchurch earthquakes - knowing that the path ahead will require leadership and a sense of sustained wellbeing.
Note Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) was formally known as My Health Revolution.
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Monday Mar 30, 2020
Episode 6: Case study - Wellbeing at Chorus
Monday Mar 30, 2020
Monday Mar 30, 2020
In this podcast, we're joined by Phillippa Powell, OD Advisor at Chorus. Phillippa shares her tips for building a robust program that supports wellbeing across the business and has the flexibility to meet challenges such as Covid-19.
Phillippa plays a key role in creating an enviable employee experience through her leadership of organisational development programmes. She supports, influences and advises organisations to effectively deliver upon business and people strategies, raise engagement and drive positive culture through projects and initiatives focussed on Wellbeing, Diversity and Inclusion.
She’s extremely passionate about designing and delivering innovative OD initiatives that enable people to shine and for organisations to be awesome places to work. Projects she’s recently been involved on include gender equity, cultural diversity, flexible working, mental health, anti-bullying and Rainbow Tick accreditation. She also leads Chorus’ holistic Wellbeing Programme that covers four pillars – mental, physical, career and financial wellbeing. She plays a visible and valuable role in an organisation by influencing and motivating others via a range of committees and networks.
Her varied experience comes from working in Human Resources for over 14 years in recruitment, business partnering and organisational development roles in internal HR teams and the HR consultancy environment. Her goal is to create positive working environments underpinned by a wellbeing culture that supports a sense of belonging.
Note Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) was formally known as My Health Revolution.
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Monday Mar 16, 2020
Episode 5: How to engage leaders in wellbeing
Monday Mar 16, 2020
Monday Mar 16, 2020
Wellbeing starts at the top of an organisation and leadership is crucial to embedding a culture that supports people to thrive.
Leaders who prioritise wellbeing can make a big difference to an organisation by engaging, inspiring and supporting employees to be their best. Great leaders role model wellbeing and seek opportunities to promote good health. They clear barriers to success and bring compassion and empathy to their role. At the most senior levels, leaders who value wellbeing take a strategic approach, ensuring it is well funded, well resourced and meets the needs of both employees and the business.
However, not all leaders understand the value of wellbeing or see it as more than a tick-box exercise. How do we influence those leaders to engage in wellbeing? How do we support leaders to role model wellbeing and see the value in a strategic view? And how can leaders embrace wellbeing through the COVID-19 recovery phase?
Looking to the future, the way we work will change dramatically and leaders will need to learn how to create a well and adaptable workforce, ready to meet the challenges ahead.
In this session, Jono Brent, Orion Group - Transformation Lead, joins us to share his perspective on leadership and wellbeing. Over 2019, Jono led a significant project looking into the future of work across the electricity industry, with wellbeing and leadership at the core. Rolling out the project will require engagement across the sector and Jono will share his experience, insights, and lessons for supporting leaders on the journey.
Jono Brent has been operating within New Zealand’s infrastructure industry for the past two decades. He was the Chief Executive of Connetics Ltd from December 2010 to April 2020, moving to Orion as Orion Group - Transformation Lead. Before Connetics, Jono was the General Manager – Business Development of City Care Ltd.
Jono is on the steering committee of the New Zealand Business Leaders Health and Safety Forum, is chair of the board of College House (a University Hostel) and is on the Advisory Boards of Art of Work and Seipp Construction.
Note Revolutionaries of Wellbeing (ROW) was formally known as My Health Revolution.

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